Comments on: Slingers hang on for thrilling win against Philippines basketball favourite Purefoods

By: snake

snake — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:26:32 +0000

Singapore Slingers are mostly composed af foreign players ,Purefoods was an all Filipino lineup, if Purefoods was against Singapore National Team they’ll school them till the game is over

By: Liz

Liz — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:41:32 +0000

I do recognize the fact that Slingers were excellent players. I was impressed because almost all (if not all) of them are 3-pointers. I have nothing against their winning.
My say was only about the refereeing. And i think the scores would have been a race if the refereeing were better.

By: Nino

Nino — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:14:31 +0000

Hey Nina, did you know that the game is already over? Stop embarrassing yourself, the better team won.

I am more concerned about the cheerleaders. 6 months and no new routine?!

By: mura

mura — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 03:06:22 +0000

the thing is in game you dont have to excuse human feelings and error refs should facilitate the game fairly and accordingly.
if they do have some mistake in one or two will going to take it but for officiating and ruining the whole game its not that excuse.

or are they fiba train or train as a security guard because as i see ref are guarding there calls on thier home team sucks…
they call thier self fiba trained.

By: Jacklyn

Jacklyn — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 02:18:02 +0000

I am totally agree with Ian. He is right…Please cool down everyone…It is just a game and please no blaming anymore…They are still human like us…sometimes will call some bad calls due to the difference angle of their views and jugdements.they are improving though…why dont we just give them more supports to boast up their confidence in officiating rather than just blaming them for their mistake?

By: Ian Chew

Ian Chew — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:18:23 +0000

Hi Liz, I understand your frustrations but my view is that the referees missed calls on both sides, not just on Purefoods. One of the ways though that the organisers can consider in future is to pay visiting teams to bring along one of their referees. This will definitely help minimize any charges of bias and maybe improve the game.

Refereeing aside, I still stand by my report that the Slingers won the game Tue night because their ball movement was better and 3-point shooting much sharper than Purefoods. People may overlook the fact the Slingers, though a relatively new team, have been seasoned by the many pre-season competitions that they have participated in and their team understanding is impressive. The Slingers are also a well coached team and one of their strengths is the balanced scoring contributions from the entire team, not just depending on one or two stars.

But credit must still be given to the visitors. Purefoods’ energy and fighting spirit was incredible and to comeback in the fourth quarter like they did against the Slingers gave the crowd something to shout about. Hopefully we can see the return of some more Philippines teams to add colour to the basketball scene in Singapore!

By: Liz

Liz — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:25:41 +0000

Hi bri, francis, Ian and others.. We can’t just accept the FACT that because they were local refs, you would expect bias decisions against the competitors. This is so unprofessional. Something has to be done to IMPROVE this! Yes, such bias calls do exist but so what? Just because they exist, nothing will be done and we just have to accept that reality? What is the referee for then?
As for the white guy who gave a dirty finger, that was disrespectful of him. Do not do unto others what you don’t want others do unto you. I am not saying that he deserved the disrespect that he was shown by the Filipinos but the Filipinos’ violent reactions were brought about by the build up of anger towards what was going on in the unfair game plus the disrespect of this white guy. Filipinos has a great sense of brotherhood. If one Filipino is oppressed, the rest will fight for him. But then again, the reaction was too much and was indeed violent.

By: benja

benja — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:38:29 +0000

Mabuhay pilipinas
show them what the pinoy game is made of
continue the basketball legacy

By: jawo

jawo — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:06:46 +0000

nina,do u play basketball?anyway u don’t have to answer that…
if the officiating will not improve,say goodbye to the asian prof league being spearheaded by slingers…and maybe to the slingers also…eventually invited teams will beg off next time around if they learn or experience “cooked officiating”…I’ve watched the last 3 games and saw the officiating were really bad against the visitors(u can say I’m biased but what the heck other people are saying too,and most importantly I’ve seen it with my own eyes)…

so is it a googbye for slingers this early?only the organizers can answer that…(not u nina)

By: basketball

basketball — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:41:49 +0000

Referee poor standard or double standaard had been a problem in singapore for so many years, and it will be for many years to come. NO MATTER HOW YOU COMPLAIN. It happens in any tournament, be it friendlies, inter-school( ask hwa chong) NBL Div 1, 2 or qualifying ETC. So no point argueing here about the standard cos nothing gonna be done by BAS..

By: bri

bri — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:21:05 +0000

hi nina. i’m disappointed by your own double standards. if a slinger player falls down, like sandrin, you call it a dirty play. when lanete fell down just as hard and the ref did not call any violation at all, you deem the screen legal. also, how easy is it to claim someone does not know his basketball when you don’t even know him? although i’m tempted, i don’t think i have ample support to throw back the same accusation at you.

in any case, we bought agree the officiating is bad. this precisely makes my point. darren replied in his blog and agreed on this matter. but like ian said, these refs are the best we’ve got here. my point is simply just like yours, we need better officiating to protect the welfare of the players and the integrity of the sport.

whether you are impressed with filipino play is a matter of taste. you are definitely entitled to your own opinion in the same way many are in saying they are impressed with filipino basketball. this includes darren himself and the coach among many others.

cheers.

By: nina

nina — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:42:53 +0000

If you look at the replay the play by eric sandrin in the backcourt was not an illegal screen… if you don’t know the rules you shouldn’t make comments on this board. The refs do need to do a better job. Thats why people are getting injured and the crowd is getting out of control. Look at the last home game with Sandrin getting undercut… he’s still injured and although he’s not playing like himself, he’s still putting in his time. And look at the several fouls that were committed on Darren, I’m surprised he didn’t break. The refs seemed intimidated by the crowd and there were plenty of times where they should have called technical fouls and they didn’t. In professional basketball coaches and players that are not playing are NOT allowed to come on the court…. when the team of purefoods came on the court and their coaches, the refs should have handed out several tech…or at least warnings! There are several things during the game that happened that were unfair for both sides, I don’t think that the Slingers are going to be able to continue on this route without some more professional refs out there that aren’t biased for whatever team is playing….. as far as I’m concerned the Filipinos do NOT play high quality basketball, from all the games I’ve seen and played in I’m still not impressed!!!

By: Ian Chew

Ian Chew — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:37:09 +0000

I admire the Philippines crowd for their passion but teams (players and coaches) must be aware of the great responsibility they have in not stirring up the crowd. I’m not sure what was exchanged between the Purefoods coach and Caucasian fan but what transpired later was not pretty and downright scary. The more aggressive Filipino spectators could have started a riot!

As for refereeing, let me add my two cents worth. No referee in the world can be perfect, but I believe the referees were trying their best. The Singaporean officials need some time to learn the Filipino style of play while the Philippines team also need to get used to stricter style of officiating. Both parties would have to adapt to improve the entertainment value of the game.

From what I have observed, their officiating have improved since the first Air21 games and I thought that overall, they controlled the game, though some calls were missed. Give them some time – they’re the best we’ve got!

By: Jawo

Jawo — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:02:29 +0000

A great game but referees and the angmoh spoiled it..
A lot of unfair calls were made favoring the import slingers..
Maybe refs does not want to give the 10k..hehehe..anyway, they can get that back with the sell-out crowd…
next time bring in Ginebra and it will surpass yesterdays attendance…
the angmoh should have been sent out..i dont know what happened but i believe he utter racial comments or the like that made Gregorio pissed…but the reason why the ang moh was almost mobbed is that dirty finger, that why is was still lucky that he came out the stadium in one pc…the crowd was almost about to “Kuyog” the ang moh fortunately it did not happen…

result of bad officiating resulted into players getting involved. non calls really upset players and try to get back at the each other…one very obvious unfair call is against Topex Robinson with Sandrin banging him to the floor using his elbow…that was very obvious but the referee did not call…i think is not a human mistake, its what we call “Lutong Macao”(search it on the internet)…

to the organizers thanks for bringing in PBA teams..next time bring GINEBRA and jammed packed stadium..

By: Francis

Francis — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:18:33 +0000

Bri, i agree with you..there were a lot of ridiculous fouls called in favor of the slingers and i’ve seen hard fouls not being called and soft fouls being called against purefoods. but like what i said, it would always have bias if you put in local refs. its almost everywhere.

By: les

les — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:19:48 +0000

Fair comment, Bri. In fact, I don’t know bball that well and so I’m sure you are quite correct.

The inconsistent refereeing I suppose is what irks folks, both players and fans.

By: bri

bri — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:58:26 +0000

hi francis. like i said, there were plenty of bumps by the slingers against purefoods that were not called. naturally, that would make purefoods players believe that’s how the game will be called. but when they started doing the same on the other end, they were whistled for fouls. you can’t blame them for scratching their heads on such inconsistent officiating, can you?

By: bri

bri — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:54:53 +0000

hi les, i beg to disagree about your comment on the refs following the letter of the law. there were actually plenty of fouls committed by the slingers that were not called. after one scary fall by a purefoods guard (lanete) due to an illegal screen by eric sandrin, the coaching staff, fans and even some of the organizers reacted badly against the refs, with good reason. as a result, there were two plays were the refs made out-of-this-world horrendous calls in favor of purefoods (one was an offensive foul on a slinger player when none should have been made, but since the refs have whistled and were prepared to call a foul on purefoods, he just changed it to a stupid offensive foul upon seeing the crowd react). from then onwards, things went for the worse. it was clearly a disappointing performance by the referees. this, in my opinion, is the foremost thing Singapore basketball has to fix.

By: Francis

Francis — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:53:38 +0000

They are FIBA referees, and I guess its a lot different as regards with calling fouls. In the pro league (NBA, NBL, PBA…etc), they allow soft fouls as nothing…its more into the harder fouls. last night, i was sitting next to Les (taking photos as well) and what she said were true…I also agree about what SgBoi said. But that’s always the case if the refs are local, they would always favor the home team…I guess its just the same thing in the Philippines..Taiwan..Korea, etc. just to name a few…by the way, am also a Filipino.

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