By Les Tan
Muhd Khairil glances in the winning goal for VJC in second half stoppage time to ensure a 3-2 victory. (Photo 1 © Les Tan/Red Sports)
Jalan Besar Stadium, Monday, May 25, 2009 – Victoria Junior College scored a stoppage time goal to eke out a 3-2 victory over Meridian Junior College.
The 3pm start time under the scorching sun plus the adrenaline of a national football final meant fitness would come into play in this game. Added to that the heart-pounding and ear-splitting cheering from supporters of both schools – the loudest cheering you’ll hear at a football game on this island – the stage was set for an exciting game.
A blistering start saw VJC take an early 1-0. Alex (#10) found some space on the left flank and his cross was met by Asyraf who placed his header over Edmund Wong in the (#32) in the MJC goal. 1-0 to VJC.
But MJC came right back. Their constant pressure yielded them a free-kick from 30m out. Up stepped their captain Fazli Hisham (#7) who hit it straight at the VJC keeper Ifwat Wafiy. It was not a hard shot and everyone expected the keeper to pluck it safely from the air. To his and the collective horror of the VJC crowd, it squirmed from his outstretched hands and bounced over the line. 1-1 and the MJC crowd roared their approval.
Man for man, MJC had the measure of the VJC team, nullifying any attack, while their constant probing left VJC fans with the gnawing dread of another MJC goal.
Alex (VJC #10) then missed a one-on-one situation to leave the score unchanged and the miss would haunt VJC.
VJC’s Jasper gave away another free-kick to MJC and this time Attah Joseph (#21) stepped up. Of all the people in the VJC wall, Joseph’s blast chose to take a wicked deflection off the head of Jasper and the ball hit the back of the net while VJC keeper Ifwat was left flat footed. VJC, and Jasper, were feeling particularly unlucky by now.
With MJC holding their first lead of the game at 2-1, VJC did not look likely to score. But an individual piece of finishing by Alex changed the scoreline. VJC keeper Ifwat’s kick upfield was met by the head of Anders Aplin (VJC #9). Another teammate met Anders’ header with another flick on and the ball landed nicely in the path of Alex who bore down on the right side of the MJC penalty box.
VJC fans wondered: Was he going to shoot? His answer was instantaneous – a blast with his right leg that arrowed across the diving body of MJC keeper Edmund Wong to nestle in the far corner of the net. A predator’s goal and the score was now 2-2. Game on.
After the excitement of the first half with four goals and lots of action, the second half was an anti-climax. The 3pm start was taking its toll as players from both teams started going down with cramps. The most pained sufferer was Attah Joseph (MJC #21) whose cramp was so severe that his bulging thigh muscles were rigid with cramp and he had to be carried off the pitch.
With the injuries, the game was going nowhere as a spectacle but with the passing minutes, the tension ratcheted up. A goal at this late juncture would surely spell the winner.
MJC had two golden chances to score through Joseph Tai (MJC #23), the second of which was a header that was headed for goal but Ifwat pulled off a stupendous save to make up for his first half error.
The miss of the game though, was by Alex (VJC #10), this year’s top scorer with 16 goals.
A blistering shot by Anders (VJC #9) from outside the box was not held by MJC keeper Edmund. The ball spilled loose and bounced up nicely into the path of the onrushing Alex. However, from less than 2m from the goal line and with the whole goal gaping before him, he somehow contrived to put the ball over the bar.
Even though the ball fell to his weaker left leg, he pounded the ground in extreme frustration while the VJC bench saw coach Tan Yew Hwee sprawl to the ground like he had been shot. The VJC bench must have thought this was going to be a repeat of the 2008 final where Alex also missed chances that cost them the championship title.
By this time, everyone was expecting extra-time but the final act was yet to be played out. In the second minute of extra time, a throw in by Cephas Ong was headed on by Anders Aplin. In the middle was the waiting Muhammad Khairil (VJC #5). Rising with him were two MJ defenders but Khairil got his head to the ball first.
It was not a hard header but the ball’s bounce fooled MJC keeper Edmund and went in to send the VJC crowd into delirium. 3-2 to VJC was how it finished, and VJC put to bed their 1-2 loss to MJC in last year’s final.
In an on-field incident witnessed by many and sure to be discussed for days on end, the MJC taunt to VJC to “go fly kite” got the better of VJC’s Khairil and he made a mocking gesture – putting his thumb on his nose and wiggling his fingers – to the MJC crowd in return after teammate Alex scored the second VJC goal.
After getting scolded by coach Tan Yew Hwee immediately after the incident, Khairil was marched to the MJC principal after the game by his coach and made to apologise.
“That kind of game, heart attack!” said VJC coach Tan Yew Hwee. “The chances they missed!”
The winning goal was unexpected.
“The goal was a soft goal,” he said.
For MJC, this was their fifth A Division final appearance in a row.
“That’s football,” said MJC coach Fabio Fanticelle Da Silva. “It was a loss of concentration in the last two minutes.”
“It was a very good save by the VJC keeper,” said coach Fabio, referring to the save from Joseph Tai (MJC #23) in the dying moments of the second half.
“Last year was our year, this year is their time. Our boys worked very hard and we have very good support from the principal and teachers.”
MJC are also well placed for A Division football honours next year.
“Seven of the players will be back next year,” coach Fabio confirmed.
“It’s really honourable to score in the final on such a big stage,” said Muhd Khairil, the scorer of the winning goal and who also bagged the man-of-the-match award. “Lucky the ball went in. We had many chances to score but we threw it away.”
Khairil finished the season with four goals, but that last one will live long in the memory for him and VJC.
I second that, syamster.
Why VJC didn’t defend?
How about putting in such a way that you all think Kharil did it because MJC taunt VJ first?
And it’s MJC who started it off? All the taunt, the gesture and all these crappy debate. Push it all to MJ, defame MJ la. Like MJ gonna get bring down. Mj aint sorelosers. Please do understand that what you say goes back to yourself.
Blablabla, the world is blind. Everybody has their own reasons and crap, they fought to tell their views, defend and rebut but not to listen and understand.
PEACE is a far away thing in this world.
Firstly I really don’t see a point in this argument between VJ and MJ. I agree with “farce” that cheers were meant to boost the morale of your team and also to demoralize the opposing team. You can’t relate it to 50,000 men in the stadium cursing profanities, it is totally 2 different stories there. Maybe I didn’t quite get your point, if that’s the case, my apologies in advance.
Second, I would mark the VJ player’s mocking gesture as totally childish as well as a display of poor sportsmanship. In my interpretation to the author’s expression, it is good that this situation was written out to clarify your position as a neutral writer, while VJ was victorious, you stated they have their ugly sides too, and the matter was supposed to rest as that player apologized to MJ’s principal. I would like to commend on VJ’s coach as well as the author’s choice of writing this situation.
Then again I must remind writers, even if this is not like the official newspapers around, writers-wannabes should bear in mind to take a neutral stand always, and report only the facts. Assumptions are not facts, we know that. But then again for a writer reporting what happened, it is quite all right to write what he sees, but not what he assumes. There’s a clear line there, I hope people can review on this and think about it, before jumping into conclusions about “dun geddit or contradictory statements”. I won’t even start to say “you should have been this, you should have been that” or start flaming the author, because is this even official? Who are the people writing? Who are the people reading? No offense to readers and writers, but that is my point, I won’t even take such things seriously, because this is like child’s play.
Let bygones be bygones. 2 years down, everything be washed cleaned in the JC life. 2 years is as far as the student goes, unless they spread it to their juniors of course. JC students, pass the good stuff on, and bury the hatchet, don’t affect your juniors ya?
Lastly, I think Les is good, then again who am I to say he is “excellent” or “NOT excellent” in comparison to “good”. As you mentioned, choice of words =). And a note to explain the hyperactivity of MJ’s reaction, as questioned by Les, apparently there have been conflicts over the cheer between VJ and MJ. That is from what I know. Just to clarify things a little and, my two cents worth. To “farce”: I don’t see how people can get angry or “sensitive at one silly gesture” at an opposing team player’s poor behavior and poor sportsmanship. I think, VJ should be angrier for having such players! Think about it mate. =)
Come on Les, you know, from your words.
it’s more like siding VJC.
As an in charge of red sports, you should jolly well know that reporting such events needs a balance view and not taking a stand that no 5 did that gesture because mjc cheered or rather “taunt” as you said.
Moreover, to counter your words for saying “go fly kite” as masturbate. How is it so that if a father ask his son: ” hey son, let’s go fly kite” Uhuh? so the father is asking the son to go masturbate? we could interpret it in many different ways.
thus, it is wrong for you to distort and twist facts in a way that the majority would agree, as suggested from your poll. Such poll, if you have something against MJC, it is naturally so that people would be unfair. Hence, the results are questionable.
Also, how are you necessary so sure that reading the headlines is a painful thing for MJC? We are proud. Results dont matter for we can win again next year. We are proud that our guys improved, performed well even with those injuries (which may be deemed as faking) and showed sportsmanship (which may be deemed as hypocrites). So, don’t over generalise.
Having to be there, having to be an adult, having to be the author, you were reporting base on VJC’s view (well, you can defend that, but many who have read knows it.)
Like many have said, the cheer has been used for six years. Why mention it now? Because no 5 made that gesture? So is it our cheer’s fault or the character’s fault? And how sure are you about no 5 making the gesture because of our cheer? And does necessary be true because it is equalised by Alex who’s from VJC? rubbing salt on MJC’s wound? We arent even hurt. Another thing, quote “no one has yet said they can tell their principal to “go fly kite†if the principal asks you to do something you don’t like.” How immature can you can to disregard the fact that it is a cheer? Moreover, not that anyone can’t it’s only the fact you have the guts or not to face up to the consequences.
And no matter what anyone comment, I can say
1. We are proud of our cheer
2. We are proud to be in MJC
3. We recognise VJC’s Victory
4. & I (AS AN INDIVIDUAL READER OF YOUR ARTICLE NOT MJCian) doubt your professionalism. I’d rather you not write it, since it’s not well written.
” # It’s a taunt to provoke your opponent. (47.0%, 166 Votes)
# It’s a cheer to encourage your team. (35.0%, 122 Votes)
# It’s what you say to your mother when she tells you to clean your room. (7.0%, 24 Votes)
# I thought it was a football game. I didn’t see any kite, leh! (6.0%, 21 Votes)
# Where to buy a kite, ah? (5.0%, 17 Votes)
# It’s a great pick up line, as in, “Would you like to go fly kite with me?” (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) (5.0%, 17 Votes)
# It means “Can I buy you lunch.” (3.0%, 11 Votes)”
excuse me mr les.
if u were to take 5 seconds to look into ur poll, abt 53% of ur voters do not think its a taunt.
let me do the maths for you.
number voters who do not think it’s a taunt to provoke your opponent = total number of voters – sum of voters who agrees it’s a taunt to provoke your opponent.
= 100% -47%
= 53%
therefore, more than half of the voters do not agree its a taunt to provoke your opponent, which means ”it is [ NOT ] commonly accepted to be a taunt (see poll results)”.
More comments! : )
Ok, let’s see…
@Lois – with regards to the poll. I always put tongue-in-cheek answers in my poll. Also, I believe I gave each person 3 votes each. So you can’t just do a straight add and subtract I believe. If everyone had only one vote each, then you can add and subtract that way. But the direction of the poll is clear. Most readers still think the phrase is a taunt.
@Unjust: Your point about a father asking his son to go fly kite – it’s misdirection. That was not the meaning of the cheer. MJC weren’t asking VJC if there were free to go to East Coast to fly kites. A bit off, that comment.
This line of argument has been brought up already: “the cheer has been used for six years. Why mention it now?” I have already answered it but I shall repeat it for you and those who just joined this discussion. I don’t bother with cheers. I was initially curious why a VJC student was made to apologise to the MJC principal in front of everybody. I asked the VJC team and they told me that it was because he was reacting to the line “go fly kite”.
So, Unjust, I did not make it up. I asked real people and they gave me real answers. Don’t make it sound like I plucked it out of thin air.
Your question, “is it our cheer’s fault or the character’s (#5’s) fault?” I made the assessment the gesture by #5 was mocking. Most people agree. Is it your cheer’s fault? The MJC cheer triggered his response.
Again, in case anyone misses that point, I asked VJC, they said the cheer was the trigger. I would never have written it if I didn’t verify it.
Calling me immature by saying that I “disregard the fact that it is a cheer” – I mentioned before, that it is a taunt wrapped up in a cheer and if you can’t say those three words to your principal when you are turning down her request, then there is obviously something negative with those three words. Again, It fails the common sense and courtesy test.
The VJC side should be more upset given the facts. But this continued desire to defend “go fly kite” as not a taunt defies logic and common sense. I still haven’t read any argument to say “go fly kite” is not a taunt.
If I didn’t write about the incident and everyone talked about it, people will wonder whether I’m protecting VJC, right? If I write about the mocking gesture by the VJC player and don’t mention what triggered it, people will say I’m protecting MJC, right? I confirm with the VJ team that he did because of the words in the cheer and now MJC people attack me.
So, as you can see, people, in all the above situations, I lose. In fact, not only do I provide a site for free, I provide you a comments section to say whatever you like about it. So in this situation, I am in a lousy situation.
It’s easier to turn off the comments section, but in the interest of as free a debate as possible, I leave it on.
And for those who think I’m biased against MJC, you’ll be happy to know that there are about 40 different posts on this site with MJC in it. You can check it out here: http://redsports.sg/tag/meridian-junior-college/
Also, as I have mentioned before, you don’t have to accept our version. You can always write your version of the game. You send it, we post it.
Yeah, you’re right. I’m not a professional. I have had no professional training in journalism and I never worked in the publishing industry before. In fact, readers help me a lot because I make mistakes in my stories about scores and names. I would probably get fired in the mainstream media.
I have just figured out enough about how to write and shoot sports and cover games so that people can happily come back and read the stories.
If folks want to engage me in good faith, I’m willing to engage. We may not agree, but we don’t have to be disagreeable. But if the same lines of argument come up, I think you’ll forgive me if I don’t engage you. Because I’m sure it’s becoming tiresome reading for everyone. There are other stories to worry about.
I just went to interview the principal of Seng Kang Primary. They are the only school in Singapore that has daily PE. Can you believe it?
vj people are stupid?!
oh well, LOOK WHO’S TALKING.
and you said you heard vj use the cheer last yr, you said you “believed” so.
where’s the proof?
dont start pointing fingers without any.
it makes YOU look stupid.
AND DO YOU KNOW WHY VJ IS DEFENDING THEMSELVES?
COS YOU ALL ARE THE ONES MAKING ACCUSATIONS AT THEM.
YES LIKE WHAT UNCLE LES SAID,
why didnt vj defend that putting your thumb on your nose and wiggling your fingers at the opposition is NOT A MOCKING GESTURE?
COS IT IS STUPID, JUST LIKE IT IS STUPID AND DUMB BY DEFENDING THAT “GO FLY KITE” IS A CHEER.
listen to uncle les, or end up getting hurt.
everything is over already and dont be sore losers.
the vj team is great. the mj team is great too.
and it’s an honour to be able to watch such a match.
stop arguing already.
Would people even bring this up if mjc had won?
if mjc had won, i bet this matter not be discussed so intensively.
the truth is some people just can’t get over the fact that vj won the championship by a close margin
what is with all this hate? where is the love? why can’t we just celebrate barcelona’s victory and laugh at man utd till next year’s A div starts? 🙂
come on la ppl. the words ‘go fly kite’ is used in cheers in many school. if u guys wanna blame, why not blame all the schools in singapore who usese this 3 words. i believe that in other games, there will also be this cheer. why must soccer be the target? lol. you guys are just trying to push the blame on each other. what is this? nothing will coem out of this. cos everyone mentalilty is different. so. just let this matter rest la.
It is funny to see why VJC is complaining about MJC cheer’s. I believed when i went to watch the same competition last year, VJC vs MJC, they used the same cheer. Yet, i don’t see such cases whereby the VJC player scores and do the same gesture. I also don’t see any VJC students complaining about the cheer. This year, it’s really funny to see how stupid the VJC people are trying to defend their stand by saying MJC started it first.
Here is the answer to all your question because the arguments started with your words: ‘the MJC TAUNT to VJC to “go fly kite†got the better of VJC’s Khairil and he made a MOCKING gesture’
this man met a car accident but serves him right because the people i ask say so = mjc cheer is a taunt because you state in one of your comment that you have asked some of the vjc people and they say that it is a taunt
However did you ask any of the people in the other school about their cheer before coming to a conclusion that it is a taunt?
In case you want to argue that majority of the people in the poll think that the cheer is a taunt then remember that there is another perspective to this poll: more than 50% of the people do not think so.
Also, saying that Khairil make a mocking gesture but did you ask people from both sides of the school whether they think so?
Aren’t the words that you used link to emotions? And so who is the one who show the tendency to bend or ignore the facts to fit your reality?
That’s it and I am not going to argue with you anymore. Whether a reflection is needed or not, you can decide yourself. You can choose not to accept the public suggestion by all means and continue your style of writing as you believe that there lies no fault.
An intern writer sometimes could be better than a professional writer because he is willing to learn from his mistakes. Wish you success in your future endeavour.
Thanks for your reply, Suggester.
I happily agree that interns can be better. They are better than me in many ways – they understand the sport better, they shoot better, they write better, they connect with the crowd better. I happily acknowledge their skills here on Red Sports. That’s why some of them cover national level sports because they are good enough. On Red Sports, if you’re good enough, you’re old enough.
In clarifying with VJC that #5 reacted because of the taunt “go fly kite”, I did not ask MJC if “go fly kite” is a taunt because a) it is commonly accepted to be a taunt (see poll results), b) it does not pass the test of common sense and courtesy. And no one has yet said they can tell their principal to “go fly kite” if the principal asks you to do something you don’t like. I presume you will not too.
As for asking whether #5’s gesture was a mocking gesture, both sides (VJC and MJC supporters) think it is a mocking gesture. Including his own coach. Hence his need to apologise to the MJC principal.
Without having to ask anyone whether that gesture is a mocking one, I assumed it was one because it is generally accepted as so.
There are some descriptions like “taunt” and “mocking” that I am willing to stand by based on a reasonable person’s view of things. That those words have emotional impact, of that there is no doubt. You are right.
Even the headline “VJC edge MJC 3-2 to capture A Division Boys’ Football Championship title” is full of emotion. If you were the VJC team, it’s an emotion of joy to read it. For the MJC side, it’s a painful headline to read.
The only difference, like I said before, is whether the writer is deliberately trying to be overly provocative.
There are many ways to write the line
“the MJC taunt to VJC to “go fly kite” got the better of VJC’s Khairil and he made a mocking gesture.”
I think the way I’ve written it is sticks to the facts and carries the bare minimum adjective to convey the emotions on the day.
For illustration purposes only, let me give you an alternate line of what I mean when a writer can be overly provocative:
“The MJC crowd, throwing off all sense of restraint and common courtesy and acting like a bunch of hooligans, started screaming at the top of their voices for all to hear: “All the rest can go fly kite”. An enraged Khairil, in retaliation to the taunt, ran over to the MJC crowd and made a mocking childish gesture after his teammate Alex equalised, to rub salt into the MJC wound.”
That, I am sure most readers will agree, is overly provocative.
There were two options for me with regards to this incident:
a. Don’t write about it
b. write about it
Before I even wrote about it, an MJCian came into the chatbox to start complaining about the mocking gesture. In all likelihood, when the story went up, everyone would continue talking about it. I’ve seen it happen before.
I chose to write about it because I was there and I’ve never seen a player having to apologise to a rival principal before. So I asked about it and let the rest of you know what I found out.
The irony of all this is the following – the description of the whole event in the post above, on the balance, was unfavourable for VJC. The reaction in this comments section, seems to have elevated the phrase in the MJC cheer to the same level of consciousness. It was not the topic of focus, but defenders of the cheer have made it the focus now.
Nobody from VJC seems to have disputed that putting your thumb on your nose and wiggling your fingers at the opposition is a mocking gesture. But for MJC folks, the description ‘taunt’ has made some of you upset enough to dispute it.
But as much as some will try to justify it, if the phrase “go fly kite” cannot even pass the common sense and courtesy test, the evidence suggests it is a taunt.
LIke I’ve mentioned in the post, I think the MJC cheering together with the VJC cheering at the football final was outstanding. I walked in and the hair on the back of my neck stood up. It was awesome. : ) Better than any S.League game. Even better than any recent national football team game with all its swearing. I wouldn’t bring a primary school boy to a national football game. You’ll have to spend the one hour after the game having to explain to the kids why 50,000 adults like to scream about male genitalia in Malay.
This post was not written to ask you to stop using that particular cheer.
But if others outside MJC cannot describe three words of it as a taunt, while MJCians continue to say the #5’s gesture is mocking, then it is bending some facts to fit your preferred reality.
And if anyone is wondering why on earth I am bothering with writing long replies – as you know I usually don’t get involved in the comments section – in this instance, since it is my words in the post that have stirred up some of the commenters, I felt I should get involved. Usually, it’s just folks knocking each other out in a verbal blood sport and me and the crew just come in to mop up the blood or remove the concussed one.
But I’m taking the approach that we can discuss things in good faith. We may not agree but we don’t have to end up “yelling” at or insulting each other. School sports is worth covering. That’s why Red Sports exists. And sports culture in Singapore needs the oxygen of publicity. But from time to time, year to year, disagreements will crop up.
We can talk and should talk, as long as we know that the ultimate aim is to raise the standard of Singapore sports at all levels. So while I may not agree with you and also bristle at some of the ways you guys are making remarks about me, I’m trying not to be a grumpy old man of 40 with three kids trying to make a living from this website. (By the way, I am a grumpy old man of 40 with three kids trying to make a living from this website.)
So if I have hurt you MJC guys with the paragraph, I’m sorry.
I wish you and your football team all the best. I think next year, with 7 of your current team coming back, I’m sure you will make it all the way to the final again.
It is amazing how supporters nowadays think they can significantly affect the game. It is amazing that spectators can mock players, curse at referees and jeer the opposing team and yet be so sensitive to one silly gesture. Cheers work both ways. They are meant to support your team but also intimidate,be it by its sheer vociferousness or otherwise, the opposing team.
Fly kites very relaxing what. i like it to the MAX!
to ng,
yes, wat u say is true…
but it seems that u think only u know tis…there r many others who know it too.
as u say, it’s from which side u r viewing the same one scenery.
and nothing to be amazed at how pple can pick on anything and everything to talk abt…u’re one good example of those pple.
Your choice of words seem to make it heresy if I didn’t buy your argument.
haha nice guy,
nice try…nice conclusion.
i quote u..
‘I take my time to read most of the comments and it seems to make me conclude that the ones saying that vj is not wrong are from victorians or former victorians while those supporting mjc and say that mjc have good sportsmanship are from mjc, public and even some victorians.’
how do u conclude tat? from the nicknames and self-proclamations?
u shld be smarter than tat lah.
pls take ur time to read ALL 206 comments…bcos i did. even after doing tat, i dun dare to make any conclusion. i did came across so many mjcians comments tat supported vjc and the concerned player.
i am also a public who was there…i can also tell my side of the story. but it’s jus words of one against another…
if u dun like to be rebutted, then u pls dun do it also, and certainly no rash conclusions…
I am amazed at how people can pick on anything and everything to talk about.
Different people see the exact same thing differently. A cup which is clearly half-filled with water can become half-empty from another person’s perspective. To those who believe the true intent of the cheer, it is day bright light to them. To those who believe otherwise, it is pure black darkness to them. The exact same three words “go fly kiteâ€, to some people, it is light while to others it is darkness.
To those who believe in the truth and seek only the truth, you would have believed the innocence of these words upon the creation of the cheers. To those who lived in darkness, indulged themselves in evil and destructive thoughts, constantly exposing themselves to lustful, sexual and immoral thoughts, these people could not help but to have such evil associations.
Ultimately it’s your choice whether to believe in the truth or continue to associate yourself with the devil.
Some members of the public are concerned over the debates while others think that all these are insignificant.
For those who are concerned, this forum provided a perfect opportunity to witness what are in the minds of our younger generation. It is of paramount importance that we observe and gave our best possible replies to the issues that they are concerned about for tomorrow’s world will be shaped by what we teach our children today.
Generally, people are only concerned over the results, which in this case, the team that won the match. Anything that doesn’t fit in the picture is considered as “nitty-grittyâ€.
What it really matter is not the achievement but what lies in the heart. It is what is in the heart that counts. If everyone plays with their hearts and displays true sportsmanship, this debate would not have existed in this first place. The disturbing fact is that other teams who may be so obsessed into winning that they seem to have forgotten the true meaning of the competition itself.
I wish to reiterate my point for the third time. It seems like people just don’t get the point at all. True victory is about winning the hearts and minds of people and NOT the achievement itself! For the best and most beautiful things cannot be seen or even touched, they must be felt with the heart.
As for the infamous act, we are not in the position to judge anyone at all. As for the poor boy who may be under tremendous stress and pressure from this forum, I would like him to know that when we have done something wrong, we can either accept legitimate blame for what we have done or shift the blame to others. A good test of a person’s character is his behaviour when he is wrong. He has apologized to everyone and I sincerely hope that everyone will forgive him. He who cannot forgive others burns the bridge over which he must pass. With that, I wish him all the best for his future endeavors.
Since when did a cheer arouse such attention and comments?
A cheer is just a cheer to create the atmosphere, why comment about it.
Another note to put, although I’m quite shocked that mj ‘booed’ the vj players, I do understand why.
It was just a sudden heated reaction.
I know both teams did their best and we should commend them 😀
Haiz…. I cant believe that there are more than 200 comments regarding the sportsmanship, cheer and school song. I take my time to read most of the comments and it seems to make me conclude that the ones saying that vj is not wrong are from victorians or former victorians while those supporting mjc and say that mjc have good sportsmanship are from mjc, public and even some victorians. Come on… The more you guys comment, the other party will just rebut.
I am a public who went down to watch the match and sit at the MJC side. From their conversation, I can tell that they are not angry because they lose. What annoyed them was the mockery gesture from Khairil which destroyed the meaning of the game. I heard VJC has one national player and one Vietnamese player. So, MJC are already mentally prepared to lose the title. However, it was a commendable effort that MJC students cheer their hearts out and the players give their very best to put on a good fight. VJ has performed well too.
Let’s put an end to all these comments. The players ought to reflect on their own. They knew what they have done. U guys are mature enough. Just leave the past behind and know that VJC has won the game and MJC put on a good sportsmanship in the games. Both colleges are CHAMPIONS.
TO: piss off
well, i meant humble opinion as in a “courteously respectful” opinion, according to dictionary.com
i think you kind of misintepreted it as the more commonly used meaning which is “not proud or arrogant; modest”
and no, i’m not “not proud” in fact you can say i’m totally proud of being a meridian! maybe even arrogant. ok i’m kind of anal but yea its true